2012 Trade Deadline: Jackets Make Moves, Prepare For Roster Shakeup
In what may very well be a case of setting the table for the trade deadline, the Jackets made moves up and down the organization today, including a surprise waiver claim.
Defenseman David Savard was assigned to Springfield early this morning, and will play for the Falcons later tonight. The move makes some sense with the acquisition of Jack Johnson - the team has more than enough bodies on the blue line, particularly with both Wisniewski and Nikitin healthy.
What was a bit more of a surprise was the assignment of both Ryan Russell and Grant Clitsome to waivers, likely with the intention of sending both down to Springfield if they are not claimed. While Clitsome has been on an extended tour of the press box, I would have expected Aaron Johnson or Brett Lebda to be designated for assignment before the offensive d-man, though I can certainly see the argument that his skillset has been effectively replaced by the Johnson deal. Don't be shocked if we see Clitsome claimed by another team that can absorb the relatively light cap hit and hope for him to rebound after a sophomore slump.
Meanwhile, Russell had been a solid presence on the third line, and his demotion takes speed away from a checking unit that had been reasonably effective since his callup. Perhaps this is freeing up a forward slot for potential trade deadline returns? Little else makes much sense.
(Speaking of the Johnson / Carter deal, both teams have confirmed that each player has passed their required physical exams. The trade is now complete.)
In other news, the team pulled centre Darryl Boyce off of waivers from Toronto this morning. Generally regarded as a high energy, physical, strong character player, he's a good faceoff guy and worked hard as a PKer for the Leafs, but has heard some concerns about his size. You may remember him from a nasty collision earlier in the season that shredded his nose. (Link not particularly safe for the squeamish).
If, as predicted, both Samuel Pahlsson and Derek Mackenzie could be trade assets, Boyce makes sense to step into a 3rd or 4th line C role. A pending UFA, it's a chance for him to audition for his new team and perhaps earn himself a new deal going forward. You can hear Boyce's being interviewed by Toronto's Fan590 radio station about the trade here.
Last but not least, TSN's Bob MacKenzie is reporting that Rick Nash's agent, Joe Resnick, is hopeful a deal can get done prior to the trade deadline that sends the power forward out of town. It seems that Nash's list of acceptable trade destinations will not change in the offseason, so the question now is simply who blinks first - Scott Howson or his suitors. Glen Sather, please pick up the white courtesy phone...
With the Rangers already sending Wojtek Wolski to Florida in a move to clear salary, it seems quite likely that they're the front runner, and if the Jackets are looking to pick up multiple assets in exchange for Nash (and they damned well should be), the team will need the roster flexibility to bring the pieces together as quickly as possible.
Nash is reported as travelling with the team to Pittsburgh for Sunday's game, while the Rangers play at home tonight. Should a deal go down before the deadline, it seems likely that Nash could be heading on one plane while the rest of the team takes another home.
Someone comes to town, someone leaves town...
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I know a guy that writes for Blueshirt Banter...
…and he also seems to think Nash’s destination is the Rangers.
I’ve read that Del Zotto and McDonagh are untouchable. What can the Jackets expect from the NYR if indeed they are the trade partner?
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
And will there be a starting goaltender coming back for Nash?
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
You are asking all the right questions. If the Rangers are indeed the most interested party, their comments about “untouchables” may just have been trade talk leverage. When it comes down to getting Nash, I doubt that anyone other than Lundquist himself is truly untouchable. If Howson sees the Rangers as the best candidate for a Nash trade, it may also explain his comment about waiting to get a goalie until later. I personally don’t see why we have to get a goalie out of the Nash deal, we should try to get maximum value instead.
Not from the Rangers, but these moves would likely open up enough money to bring one in via trade or free agency – particularly if Carey Price or Corey Schneider hit the open market.
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If Del Zotto and McDonagh are truly untouchable, then I think we need to be look at players like Anisimov, Stepan, and Hagelin – particularly Stepan.
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The Rangers won’t give up any of them, either. Especially Stepan. Whether or not that’s fair is one story, whether or not that’s true is another, and it’s definitely true at least for Stepan/Anisimov.
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Then I don’t know why they ever bothered being in on the bidding.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Does seem odd if the fans are right that McDonaugh, Del Zotto, Krieder, Stepan, Anisimov, etc. are all “untouchables” when they are obviously the most attractive players for CBJ.
Just dont see the fit, especially when they are rumored not to be willing to give up anyone but Dubinsky and Erixon.
And I can say...
…I have little to no interest in Dubinsky.
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this is stupid
how are young prospects “untouchable” when u got argualy a top 5 goal scorer in the world available. im really getting angry at the lack of respect rick nash is getting from across the league. every where i look i see other teams thinking their young prospecs are all the next wayne gretzky. if im howson i dont cave into the pressure and take a crappy deal when these teams are claiming their prospects are better than rick nash. yes rick nash isnt a leader, that dosnt mean he wont be a monster when hes playing for a competitive team. you dont play on the first line of olympic team canada if your not all world. dont trade nash. you will not get equal value in return. nash dosnt mind being here. you guys are tempting him when u requested he waive his no trade, but it wasnt his calling.
this is seriously making me angry
if im rick nash im upset at the lack of respect im getting, these teams like boston, new york, la, ect… are all a bunch of haters. if your a team who thinks you have the making to win a championship, but you need an extra all world goal scorer, then ANY prospects you have should be available….. you got to go for it. . I dont think anyone other than the jackets and the people of columbus respect and undrstand rick nash (actually i think the redwings do too, but i hate them and they dont need nash). i wish nash would realize this and decide he dosnt want to leave, were really trying here to win, its just not happening for some reason, but i have faith it will eventually.
So Nash’s agent says “However, if a deal is not reached, then the list of acceptable teams will not change at a later date”. Make no mistake, this is Rick Nash putting pressure on Howson to be traded now. This statement essentially nullifies the main reason for Howson to wait until the season is over, which is to get more teams in on the bidding. I would not be surprised to see a deal happening very soon. This is getting very interesting!
It is interesting...in a sad kind of way.
I don’t want to lose 61 but I can certainly understand his desire to go where he can win. If he stays it will be (another) 2-3 years (maybe) before the Jackets are winning consistently and going deep in the playoffs.
The Blueshirt Banter guy seems to think that a deal will be done before the deadline.
And I agree—Nash wants out now by all appearances. Can’t blame him.
A sad state of affairs. Makes you wonder if there truly is light at the end of this tunnel…
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
I wouldn’t be shocked if Nash (and his agent) are disgusted with how the Jackets have allowed this all to play out so publicly. Now that all the trade talk is out there, and there’s an impression that the team wants to move him, I’m sure Nash just wants it to end. And I don’t blame him for that part of it – the trade talk must be extremely distracting.
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You guys will like Boyce. He is an unbelievably hard worker on the ice and a great guy off of it.
He has been one of my favorite players since his university days at UNB. I couldn’t believe it when the Leafs first signed him, it’s rare enough for a player from the CIS to get an NHL contract let alone my favorite player from my favorite local team getting signed by my favorite NHL team. It sucks that the Leafs never really gave him a fair shot this season, hopefully he gets a better chance in Columbus.
Thanks for the feedback! Appreciate hearing this – I’m looking forward to seeing him play.
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"...It sucks that the Leafs never really gave him a fair shot this season..."
Is that why he was put on waivers? Because he was unable to crack (or stay) with the big club?
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
I don’t think they would have put him waivers if it wasn’t for the fact that the trade deadline is in a couple of days. It seemed like he had passed Colby Armstrong on the depth chart and was going to be able to stick around with the big team so I’m not sure why they would waive him other than to free up a roster spot for any potential trades.
by Brad Ackerson on Feb 25, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Must be something brewing...
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
I don’t want to see Nash in another sweater but I do understand the business part of things. I think dealing him does send a bad message to other players coming here though, we’ll sign you to a long term deal but then trade you when things aren’t good. Who will be the face of this franchise with Nash gone? I think there will be a drop off in attendance next season if Nash is indeed traded. I actually thought about buying season tickets next year before all of this trade stuff started up. I think I’ll wait another few years until Howson is gone before I drop that kind of dough.
I agree. Who will be the face of the organization? Stinger? Boomer???
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
I think you’re drastically underestimating how many people would come out to watch the number one pick.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 25, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think I am. If I said that attendance would drop to epic low levels, then I might be drastically underestimating something. As it stands, it is my personal opinion that Nash puts more butts in seats than Nail. Who knows, you could be right though.
Nash is familiar, he’s old news. The teams has stunk for years with Nash.
Nail is new. Nail is hope. Nail is a much more exciting player than Nash, he’s flashier. Nash symbolizes that same group of failures that have been here for the better part of a decade. Nail symbolizes a brighter future.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 25, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
If we get Nail that is. There is a lottery after all and the Jackets has not moved up even once, but has been given a worse number than expected several times. But I agree that a guy like Nail Yakupov can make fans excited about hockey again. There will be other new interesting players coming here as well, and most importantly, a Nash trade will finally give us depth and more young talent than we have ever seen before. However, for the casual fan, Nash is all they know and they have already made up their minds that the current GM can’t do anything right, no matter what the deal will bring back. Also, I think there is a psychologial aspect at play here. For years fans have watched this team lose, but they could always say “at least we have Nash”. And when you have spent a lot of money on a #61 sweater it makes it even harder.
I agree with a lot of what you say here. Don’t get me wrong, if/when Nash is traded, I will be behind whoever is on the ice. It’s just hard to stomach watching the team lose year in and year out. It’s difficult to talk to fellow hockey fans, some of them fans of other teams, and not be able to be excited for this time of year. I just don’t trust the guys running this team. I would love nothing more than for Howson to prove me wrong but his track record isn’t good, in my opinion. I know others don’t agree and think that he has made good, or at least reasonable moves. I don’t claim to be a GM and I wouldn’t want his job but as a fan it’s hard to watch another “rebuild.” I want this team to succeed and I’m sure I’ll get excited when we see what’s coming back for Nash and on into the draft but right now, this whole situation is depressing. We are almost 3/4 of the way through the season and we have 18 wins, with a team Howson thought was his best yet. Pardon my skepticism.
We have clearly had the worst season ever, I can’t argue with that. And although the first couple of seasons with Howson brought better play, it has been going downhill ever since. In the end it’s all about winning, so I fully understand why people are upset with him and I feel the same way a lot of the time. However, if I look at our total roster talent wise, including Springfield, I can only conclude that we are in a much better position than we were before Howson. He has made some mistakes, especially when it comes to goaltending and coaching, but when it comes to this horrible season I don’t think he is entirely to blame.
In regards to the re-build, I may be a glass half full kind of person, but I think that this is actually a good time to do it. I like that Craig Patrick is so involved and I think that I see his guiding hand behind all of this. He is a guy who has built a team with young talent and prospects into a Cup winning team before. Also, Howson’s best strength seems to be in the area of making trades, and he is always very careful not to trade valuable assets without getting good value back.
When it comes to Nash, I would like nothing more than for the CBJ to be able to build a team around him that wins the Cup, or at least gets back to the playoffs again. However, his value will probably never be higher than it is right now, and it’s possible that he has already peaked as a player. He may go on to prove me wrong, but his production has been falling for the last few years and it seems like players are peaking earlier now than they used to. The key to this trade is obviously what we get in return and I trust Howson/Patrick to get very good value. Maybe I am naive and put to much trust in Howson, but I think he is a bright and calculating guy that has only needed a person like Patrick to guide him in terms of the overall vision for the team.
I think it will depend on who is left when the dust settles, but I can certainly see guys like Brass, Umberger, Johnson, Wiz, and whomever is drafted first overall (I would assume Yakupov).
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It’s hard to blame Nash. If the GM walks up to you, and asks you to put together a list of teams you’d waive your NMC for, would you want to stick around? He wanted to spend his career in Columbus, he signed a long term deal, said and done all the right things…and then management turns around and essentially says, “thanks, but no thanks.” I’d be clamoring to get out of town too and put that whole episode behind me.
That said, for all the Rangers fans talk of “untouchables” etc. etc., Unwillingness to give up McDonaugh and Del Zotto, unwilling to trade Kreider, I wouldn’t mind seeing Howson go after Anisimov-he’s got a lot more upside the Dubinsky. I think Michael Sauer would be a good fit in Columbus as well, after the Johnson acquisition, the Jackets have a lot of offensive-minded blueliners, they could use a guy like Sauer who’s at his best in the defensive zone.
That, and considering if a 1st rounder comes over in the deal, Columbus will have 5 of the first 50 picks in the draft, including the 1st overall(more than likely). Not a bad way to start a rebuild.
Agreed on Nash.
I don’t know enough about most of the other players in the NHL to know what is a quality return for Nasher. I just hope that Howson sticks to asking too much for him rather than settling just to expedite a deal…
Just once I'd like someone to call me "Sir," without adding, "You're making a scene."
All indications are that Howson is sticking to his guns – and he has to, really. “Winning” this trade is vital. If you’re going to bet the farm on a trade, you damn well get what you came for.
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Nash is a class act and has been a a good ambassador for Columbus and for hockey in general. I will be sad to see him leave and wish him all the best. With that said, this may be the best time to trade him. He is still in his prime, although I think it’s possible that he has already peaked. His value will probably never be higher and I think there is a good possibility that a team will overpay.
The reason that Nash wants to be traded now is understandable. Why go through a meaningless end to the season with CBJ when he can go to a cup contender now? His agents statement about the list of acceptable teams not changing at a later date, may actually put a bit of pressure on Howson to get the deal done now. At least I think that this was the intention behind the statement. On the other hand, Howson still doesn’t have to trade Nash and should absolutely wait until he is sure he gets a very good deal. Otherwise he will always be known as the GM who gave up Nash for too little.
Clitsome
“While Clitsome has been on an extended tour of the press box, I would have expected Aaron Johnson or Brett Lebda to be designated for assignment before the offensive d-man, though I can certainly see the argument that his skillset has been effectively replaced by the Johnson deal.”
I think the bolded words highlight the problem with Clitsome this season. Having watched him at Clarkson, at the Traverse City rookie tournament, with Springfield and his first call up with the Jackets, he was not an offensive defenseman. He was a sound two-way guy, who made good decisions and used his skating effectively. Then he came up at last season and started putting up points. If you look at Clitsome’s points per game every year of his career, at every level, the highest number is that 31 game stretch with the Blue Jackets. He scored at a lower rate in college and the AHL. Watching him this season, it looked like he changed his game, thinking he was an offensive defenseman. That has led to a lot of mistakes. If he lands somewhere else, simplifies his game and gets back to the kind of defenseman that fits his skills, he may turn out alright.
Id be fine with the following package:
Brandon Dubinsky (even though I love him as a player)
Christian Thomas
1st round pick
Cam Talbot
Rangers FTW!
by BleedsRangerBlue on Feb 26, 2012 12:27 AM EST reply actions
…it still looks like the Rangers are the most likely destination for Nash, but if Sather doesn’t offer enough, the Canucks put Keith Ballard on IR, freeing up cap-space. They’ve got about $4.6 mil to work with, so Howson may be able to get Schneider and a package by the deadline(which whould be ideal, IMHO). We’ll have to see what happens.
If I was Howson I’d want Dubi, Erixon, Kreider, and a first. It won’t happen, but start from there and see what they counter offer. As much as Ranger’s fan will go on about “untouchables” that really means nothing. The only real untouchable they have is Hank. In the end, I see it as Dubi, Erixon, a first, and some kind of conditional pick like a 2nd if they make the finals.
by Ryan Sheets on Feb 26, 2012 7:36 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I’m really most concerned about Howson’s comment that the team isn’t actively looking for a goaltender at the moment. Yes, the offense has been on-and-off, and the defense abysmal, but their biggest weakness at the moment is goaltending.
I would hope that, as others have said, Howson has been burned enough by younger, unproven goaltenders that he no longer sees something like that as a viable #1 option. Names like Bishop, Greiss and even Reimer have been floated around, but they’re still far from being a lock.
The “backup with a solid chance of being a starter” market looks better, with Rask, Schneider and Bernier being the top names. All of these teams are looking at ways to go deep into the playoffs, though, and trading away a solid piece of a 1A/1B tandem wouldn’t be in the team’s best interest without at least getting a serviceable goalie in return and riding their 1A through most of the playoffs. With Carter and Vermette gone, the only other real bargaining chip that the Jackets have to try and pry one of them away is Nash. Even though Vancouver, Boston and LA are all on Nash’s trade list, I don’t see any of those teams partially blowing up their teams for another forward at this time of the year. I’ll admit that I don’t know too much about their respective organizational depths, but I doubt that any of them would be willing to disturb team chemistry that much.
Looking at free agency, there are currently some tempting names out there (Price, Schneider, Lindback etc), but they’re all set so become RFAs at the end of the season, giving Howson a double-whammy to deal with: after offering them enough to not only get them interested in Columbus (as the team has a history of having to overpay to land free agents) but get their respective parent team to walk away from matching the offer, Columbus is still on the hook for draft pick compensation – payment between $3.1M and $4.7M would cost the team a first- and third-round pick…not exactly the best strategy if your team is indeed beginning a full rebuild.
I’m concerned that the only option may be trading Nash in the off-season, when teams are more apt to experiment with shuffling pieces around. I’ll admit, I’m in the “keep Nash in Columbus” crowd, but I also don’t trust Howson to be able to pull off a big, organization-defining deal like that to land a solid #1 that will be here long enough for the Jackets to build up some sort of goaltending depth.
I thought the same re: Bernier...
…but the club all but said they weren’t interested in the course of the Carter/Johnson deal. Which means they’ve either:
a) found the exact guy they want and are going hard after him today/over the summer, or
b) want someone who’s been a bonafide starter for multiple years in the NHL, which of course makes the pool pretty small.
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dont trade with the rangers
First if Columbus is looking to get more or equal return for Nash the rangers is not the team to trade with. Slathered has a history of fleecing teams in trades, then signing horrible free agent contracts.
Highlights can include trading anson Carter for jagre, and dumping Gomez on Montreal while stealing mcdonagh Ind opening up space to sign gaborik. He is a tough Guy to trade with.
Also as a ranger fan I have to put Nash in perspective. Would he help win a cup yes. If we blow up our roster for him hell no.
1. We have a defensive team its why we win and its why we are unwilling to deal them away.
2. It also comes to the future we have a ton of rfa’s that are blowing up with 3 big contracts on the books, taking Nash means we will not gave the cap to resign our home grown talent over the next 3 seasons when many of them
need raises. Which means that mcdonagh or stepan might have to go in a few seasons because of Nash.
3. Cap hit again. We have three huge cap hits as is we can’t afford a 4th in the cap era. I wouldn’t sign Nash to his contract if he was a free agent. So why would I give up roster players for that?
4. The new cba is rumored to have a reduction in salary cap which would bone the rangers if they had Nash’s contract ontop of the others.
by Pballer505 on Feb 26, 2012 12:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Slathered has a history of fleecing teams in trades, then signing horrible free agent contracts.
Like trading Fedor Tyutin for Nik Zherdev, right?
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by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
But...
Would he help win a cup yes.
Isn’t this the entire point of playing NHL hockey?
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