Game Thread 60: San Jose Sharks at Columbus Blue Jackets
by Dan P. on Feb 21, 2012 6:00 PM EST
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PrintSan Jose Sharks at Columbus Blue Jackets, Feb 21, 2012 7:00 PM EST
The Jackets get another piece back, as Nikita Nikitin is off the IR list and should be in tonight's game. It looks like they'll still be without James Wisniewski, and Curtis Sanford and Jared Boll are on IR at the moment. But still... another solid piece to the blue line is coming back.
The Sharks are scuffling a bit, losers of four of five on this nine-game road trip (1-3-1); tonight is game #6 for them. They have a smoking hot Phoenix club nipping at their heels, so expect them to come out revved up tonight looking for a slump-buster, which, sadly, the Jackets kinda are.
If the Jackets can channel more of Sunday night's--and last week's--magic, as opposed to Saturday's anti-magic, they've got a puncher's chance. If they play like they did the last time these clubs met--a 6-0 spanking coming out of the All-Star Break--well, then I'd say it's early to bed for us in Blue Jackets Nation.
Enjoy the game!
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With the trade today, Tampa essentially gets a first rounder for Downie. What’s this make Pahlsson worth? Prices are high
by cbjfan14 on Feb 21, 2012 6:41 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Good. Pahlsson is perfect trade bait.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
It makes me so happy to see Brassard playing well. I was very excited for him after his rookie year, and I always felt like he still had it in him, but since then he had been disappointing. Hopefully he can keep up his good play.
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I think Carter is less likely to be traded than Nash, regardless of what the media might say. He’s on a better contract, and he hasn’t performed well this season. This would be a bad sell low move on the part of the jackets. If they think this season was largely a health issue or just a down year, instead of some kind of attitude issue, there isn’t a good reason to trade him. You won’t get fair value for him, and his contract is extremely team friendly.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know about that. I know a lot of people in the local media think Carter is as good as gone, but I haven’t heard anything close to that from Howson.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Hooray hockey and stuff!
But seriously, I cannot believe I missed two goals. How lame.
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The PP goal was awesome.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Incidentally, that Carter goal is the kind of opportunity we need to create at even strength.
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I haven’t been following super closely, but it seems like his last few games have been a bit better.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I hope the rest of the NHL is paying attention to that. That’s what they’re trading for. That’s why they have to overpay. Rick Effing Nash, damnit.
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Another helper for Brass as well.
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haha RJ has a Gordie Howe hat trick already
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Ryan Johansen..
..is it just me, or does he always look like hes high? I mean I love the kid, but geez his eyes always seem to be in the back of his head haha
He’s a teenage rookie. Unless he was the 2nd coming of Gretzky or Lemieux, he should look a bit lost out there.
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Holy hell, when was the last time we chased a goalie in the first period? I keep telling my co-worker I think this team as-is is one top tier d-man and a #1 goalie away from being a playoff team next year. Assuming we can stay healthy.
I actually agree with that. Our forwards are good. Imagine if we had these lines:
Yakupov-Brass-Nash
Prospal-Carter-Umberger
Dorsett-Vermette-Letestu
Gillies-MacKenzie-whatever
Add Atkinson and Kubalik into this mix. That’s a very good top six and a lot of possible combinations for the bottom six.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
That all depends on what you’d pay to get those very expensive pieces and general chemistry of the team… but I agree with you. This year was way worse than it should have been. Almost all of these players were proven performers in the past and fell totally flat.
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I know there are going to be big moves and some guys are going to be gone but I would love to see what Richards could do with this group given a full year. Oh and with Howson gone.
I think Howson has done most things right, outside of picking a head coach.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
His odd faith in Mason and inability to deal with cap space/contracts are not so good. I’m more negative about him than positive.
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I don’t know how much it is faith in Mason so much as being too timid to go hard at other options when he had the chance. Still a negative, but not as bad.
The cap space/contract issue is what happens when you take a gamble and fail. He gambled that Brassard and Mason (among others) would continue to play well. By locking them up early, he locked them into what would have been favorable contracts. If he had waited to see how they turned out, he risked them becoming much more expensive. As a strategy, I’m ok with it, it’s a sound plan. Like any plan though, it looks bad when things don’t go as you expect.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
I just haven’t been a fan of Howson from the get go. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
Also
You completely left Johansen off of your list of lines. Ahem. :-)
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It Only Took 60 Games?
This appears to be the team I expected to see at the beginning of the season. Goals by Umberger, Nash, and Carter (2). Amazing that we might be seeing the last game of two, or even, three of those guys. But this has been such a disaster of a season that the one thing Howson can’t do is nothing.
At least it was an interesting first period, for a change. Now don’t flash back to the Preds game.
I normally don’t buy into this crap and I think it’s mostly meaningless, but… Do you think Umby is pissed that he lost his “A” to Dorse/Prospal?
And/or does anybody actually keep track of who wears the “A” regularly, because while I assume Umby has been wearing one all year, I don’t actually know that for sure.
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There’s usually two sets of alternate captains, if I remember right, and they have some way of alternating games.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
According to Jeff Little
"120 "A"s handed out by #CBJ (incl. tonite) — Umberger 52, Vermette 29, Carter 11, Wisniewski 11, Prospal 9, Dorsett 8"
Handy! I knew I had seen somebody mention it briefly, but I didn’t remember the details of the discussion. Thanks!
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weak.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Man, I need to make dinner during the first period more often.
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So is this a legit looking penalty kill too? This is just too much. I don’t understand anything anymore.
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Alright Jackets, don’t do this.
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Please?
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
Good timeout by Richards. Hopefully they turn this back the right way.
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Double minor powerplay for the Jackets. Hopefully this switches the momentum back.
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Umby just that close to connecting before getting knocked over.
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Is that Johansen I see out there being given powerplay time?
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“And indeed RJ Umberger getting credit for…. " “GOAL BY DAVID SAVARD” “…”
Rimer, failing miserably, getting upstaged by the PA announcer in Nationwide.
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Hey guys
Just wanted to stop by and ask a favor. Can you guys beat San Jose for us? Everyone here in AZ would really appreciate it.
Did Pahlsson just out-muscle and steal the puck from Joe Thornton? Everything about this game is wrong (and so right)
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I would not be upset to see Nash or Carter go, provided there was a good return. I would prefer to keep them, but won’t be pissed if they’re gone.
I think Pahlsson should most definitely be traded. Not that I don’t like him, but his value is about as good as it’s going to get.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
How long has it been since we’ve scored 5 goals?
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Versus Nashville 12/22 this season in a 5-6 loss I believe.
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Well the question was asked! Sheesh you guys!
(I will go cut my fingers off for typing about that game)
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I’m trying not to let this performance color-blind me to the issues facing this team. But, it does make one wonder: if the club had been healthy all year (including, and especially, Dekanich), what would we have seen?
On one hand, these guys look completely different over the past seven or eight games, minus the Blackhawks game. That said, is it all a mirage? I mean, their PP has been converting at a 33.3% clip over the last nine games. You can’t count on that kind of production for a whole season.
I’ve come down on it all this way, watching tonight’s game: IF you can, trade Carter and whatever else you need to make the deal work to the Kings for Bernier and Johnson, and then unload the UFAs for picks. DO NOT trade Nash.
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I like the idea of keeping Nash too but I think he’s disheartened that they even asked him to waive his no movement clause.
Somebody brought this up with Dark Blue Jacket over twitter – if Howson is fired, does that signal to Nash that the guy who wanted to move him was wrong and that the franchise still needs/wants him? And if that’s right, would it also apply with Carter?
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Also, how do you know that it isn’t Patrick pushing for Nash and Carter to be moved? It sounds to me like the new philosophy of character, speed and skill has his stamp all over it. I think he also likes the idea of loading up on assets and young talent just like he did with the Pens. I know that Howson is still the GM but I think they are more of a team now – Howson/Patrick. So if Howson is fired it may not change the direction the team is taking, plus firing Howson a week before the trade deadline just won’t happen.
Rick Nash is a glorious player for giving that open goal to Carter, too. Seriously, that was all his but he fed it over to Carts for the trick.
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Absolutely. Much respect for that.
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OK, boys. Let’s make it 7!
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btw, good game thread tonight.
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CBJ winning + deafening CBJ trade talk = lively twitter feed and game thread.
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Absolutely essential. Can you imagine what would have happened if they just let it keep sliding?
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Hmmm… that was a nifty play, goal counting or not. Somebody put that man on a baseball team.
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Mase was out of position on the third goal. Thank you for waiving that 4th goal off. Clearly a high stick.
Jackets almost look like they need a 2nd timeout. They seem a bit out of sorts right now.
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Yes, scary right now. I’m a having Nashville backflash. And Carter had a hattrick in that one too. Sorry, I know I should not talk about the “game that shall not be named”.
And you people were scolding me for that!
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Now you know how I feel.
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What's that you say? Boomer you say?
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by zekebud on Feb 21, 2012 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish Boomer was the most embarrassing thing about the franchise after this year rather than being in last place.
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I really like Nikitin. That was a great trade.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Letestu is also well worth a 4th round pick.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Jackets really aren’t doing so well at the Fail 4 Nail quest these days.
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I don’t think we have time to fall out of the top ten or even top five, so I’m not too worried about it.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
It’s true. CBJ are still 7 points less than Oilers and CBJ have 2 more games played.
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Jackets win, Mason sets the CBJ franchise wins record.
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And 500th for Carter. Lots of milestones tonight.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 21, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Three things stick out in my mind.
1. Mason looked sharp the majority of the time. Deflected shots from the point he can only do so much about. By and large, he was what we needed. Just keep us in the game. He earned a franchise record because he did just that.
2. Our transition out of the D-zone was silky smooth a good chunk of the time. Yes, we got Nikitin back, and I’m sure that helped. Let’s not forget though, that transition was excellent despite not having Wiz in there. That’s a good sign.
3. Perhaps most surprising, those boys were just oozing chemistry. Everyone seemed to be on the same page. Honestly, I can’t think of another game from this season or the latter half of the last one where the Jackets looked like such a cohesive unit. Hopefully it’s a sign of things to come. Just don’t get too hot … I still want Nail.
I’m also starting to think much of this has Richards’ fingerprints all over it. Not saying he’s earned the head spot permanently, but he certainly deserves consideration.
by CannonGoesBoom on Feb 21, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah … I’m not a fan of that either. Take the good with the bad I suppose.
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