Shrapnel - 6/28/11
by Matt Wagner on Jun 28, 2011 9:03 AM EDT
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PrintAfter a weekend of somewhat nerve wracking silence, Jeff Carter met with the Jackets front office (plus Rick Nash and reportedly R.J. Umberger), and tensions appear to be soothed all around. As expected, Carter's silence was more about needing to harness his frustration and shock than any intended slight at Columbus. There's a full transcript of his first media conference call on the team's web site, and they've also announced that Carter will be wearing #7. (Sorry, John Moore. Maybe you could take #77? I'm sure Anson Carter won't mind.) Fire up those jersey orders and keep an eye out for "shirt-seys" at the Blue Line...
Tom over at DBJ had some pre-press conference thoughts on Carter's reactions, LTL gave him a new nickname, and we had pre and post thoughts from Jeff at TMM. Call me biased, but I think the best news is that Carter is planning to come to Columbus "sooner than later" to check out the city and look for new digs. Despite the concerns over the situation, that really speaks of enthusiasm to make that new start. Just about every player who has been in Columbus for a season or two tends to enjoy living here - hopefully that will soften some of the blow.
Wondering who was qualified and who wasn't? HFBoards has a nice running tally. Some surprising names there - I will say that if Tyler Kennedy is a free agent on July 1, I want to see Scott Howson go after him with a vengeance. Christian Hanson could also be an interesting depth addition, should he appear on the market.
A stick tap to @CBJProspects for finding this USHL video interview of Jackets' prospect T.J. Tynan after he was drafted last weekend.
Over at The Copper & Blue, Derek is calling for more transparency in PHWA voting for the NHL awards. On a similar note, the Hockey Hall of Fame class of 2011 will be announced today, which is another group that could use some accountability. (Pat Burns should have been in last year, and we all know it.) Interestingly, this is the first year where some former CBJ alumni (Andrew Cassels, Geoff Sanderson) could...IN THEORY...be eligible. Very, very, very long shot odds, though.
Steph Greegor of The Other Paper took some time to talk to Derek MacKenzie and Matt Calvert at the draft party. Next season was discussed, both personally and the changes in the team after the Carter trade.
Appropriately, since we're talking about UFA defensemen, Winging It In Motown would like to point out that there are reasons that all of them suck.
LTL has some more video tributes to Jeff Carter. Check the William Tell action.
Oh, good. The Phoenix Coyotes are back on the ownership carousel. As much as I respect the City of Glendale for ponying up the money the last two years to keep the team there, I think there's a point where, if you've gone through three (four?) prospective owners and NONE of them can get a deal done with you? The prospective owners may not be the problem...
In somewhat more surprising news, Steve Sullivan will not be back in Nashville. I almost expected him to retire there.
Tales of obsession and...well...obsession over at the CBJ Pucks & Stuff blog.
Finally, Tapeleg talks about his recent visit to see the Huntsville Havoc and the...less than ideal...condition of some trophies down there.
We'll be back with more UFA discussion later today. July first is coming! Get excited!
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Maybe this is crazy, but I wouldn’t mind us signing Simone Gagne. Replaces Jake in the top 6, proven vet who has come up huge in the playoffs, a real warrior when it comes to playing through injuries. Also a guy Carter has played with and has to know pretty well.
I think he’s only 31 and looked good in the playoffs, depending on he’s asking for I think he good bring a lot to the team as far as leadership, expirece, and credibility.
It’s an idea, but I’m not sure he’s quite the right fit. I think we’re looking more for a Kennedy / Laich type (though Laich just re-upped in Washington) – a guy who can provide offense, but is also a big two way player.
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by Matt Wagner on Jun 28, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh didn’t qualify him, so if he’s not re-upped by Friday, he’s fair game.
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by Matt Wagner on Jun 28, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I still think he’d be a good fit here, but it seems like the team will look at some other options first.
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by Matt Wagner on Jun 28, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Man Philly fans are crazy. Carter shoots too much? Really? Players that shoot a lot bother people? And some of them said he was soft. Watch the videos LTL posted. The guy doesn’t seem to have a problem hanging out in front of the net, and goes to the hard spaces on the ice. Maybe he doesn’t lay anyone out but he’s not soft.
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Remember: These people booed Santa Claus.
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by Matt Wagner on Jun 28, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Even our former Governor!
Man-crushin' on Boucher since 1999 and Matt Calvert since May 2010
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 28, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Santa deserved to get booed.
The story behind this is quite epic: Eagles fans are promised a Christmas/Holiday parade during halftime, but instead of a parade they get a drunken Mummer stumbling around the track at Franklin Field. Finding somebody who was at that game in the 1960’s is almost akin to finding someone who was in the joint the night Wilt scored 100 points.
And in a testament to the loyalty of Philadelphia fans, at the game where Santa was booed (and pelted with snowballs), attendance was 54,000 for a team that was 2-11, in the aftermath of a snowstorm.
by CowboysSuck on Jun 28, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s that he shoots too much, but people gave him a lot of crap about missing so much.
But yeah, Carter got a bad rap in Philly because he didn’t fit the “blue-collar, hard working, heart on your sleeve” litmus test.
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by Geoff Detweiler on Jun 28, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
When you don’t win the east, or make the cup finals, or tear it up at home, maybe then fans will appreciate Carter and Richards….amazed how much weight the “locker room” nonsense has carried
by Re-SignZherdev on Jun 28, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
you are so right. Holmgren and Lavy probably aren’t going to be in the organization after next season.
by CowboysSuck on Jun 28, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he really miss any more than other players who shoot that often? I know Rick Nash missed about as many shots on fewer attempts, and that doesn’t seem to bother anyone in Columbus, so I doubt Carter will either.
I think your second sentence is probably a lot of it. People here do that to Huselius, who obviously is no Carter, but is still a skilled player. Hell, there is a reasonably large group of people who think Nash shouldn’t be captain because he doesn’t yell at people.
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by notthatnoise on Jun 28, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone who shoots that much is bound to miss the net a lot. I know for a fact that Caps fans get tired of Ovechking missing the net all the time. But half of the reason is just because he is always sending it to the net and not only taking high percentage shots.
Nash also doesnt look like he is trying out there which gets a lot of people to think he shouldnt be captain. But i think thats just his style of game.
Im torn on the situation of him being captain or not, bu i figure its really not an issue becuase leaders will be leaders whether they have the C on the jersey or anything else. Only difference is talking to refs really.
Right. I think we’ve had this conversation before, but I certainly wouldn’t mind Umberger with the C, I just don’t think it matters all that much.
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by notthatnoise on Jun 28, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, to the point of throwing pucks at the net: good things happen even if the puck doesn’t hit the net. Getting it in the vicinity is half the battle.
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by notthatnoise on Jun 28, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed with notthatnoise…and that is CBJ’s problem sometimes. No one wants to shoot it. Just pass, pass, pass til someone loses it and lose the scoring chance altogether.
Ovechkin is a hard-core cherry picker too and I’m pretty sure he got an illegal curve on his stick. (just jabbing, ha)
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by PhillyPhan85 on Jun 28, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t even remember how many times I yelled at the TV “SHOOT THE [BLEEP]ING PUCK!!” last year, so having someone not afraid to let a shot go certainly isn’t going to upset me.
In fact, one of the main culprits just went to Philly in the other side of this deal. The other wears #16.
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For Brass though it looked like things would click every now and again. There were nights when he was one of the best players out there.
Voracek looked lost a lot.
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by notthatnoise on Jun 28, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I felt a lot of nights Brass and Voracek were caught up in the one man nash show. They never seemed confident enough in their games to go for the shot. they felt like since they were playing on a line with nash that they HAD to give it to him.
Agreed, but from time to time Brass would flash something, and for stretches of a few games at a time he would look pretty good.
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by notthatnoise on Jun 28, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Brass’s shot. When he uses it, it’s a weapon. He always seemed to feel that his job was to set up Nash as option 1, 2, and 3. It’s not that I don’t think he can shoot… I just want him to do it more. Hopefully playing with a guy like Vermette on the second line will push him to shoot more.
Voracek looked like he was trying to make the sweet pass 100% of the time, even if it was a spinning blind pass to no one. Over and over. With the right linemates, Jake can be a stud. I really believe that. But he needs to develop and use his shot more instead of trying to bull his way into the zone and then somehow feed his line with insane passes.
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I still haven’t figured out how most Philly fans think he’s lazy. He’s such a pure skater that it looks effortless. I know he didn’t lay people out but the last time he did, the guy on the Devils left the game on a stretcher. Most Philly fans talk about him being one dimensional because “shoot all the time” (so does Ovie) but he has developed into a solid two way player who seems takes his defensive responsibilities seriously (he was +27 this past year), he has also worked to improve on faceoffs, leading the team in FO % the last two years. (I’m sure you guys remember him scoring off the f/o win).
I’m glad he got #7 since that was his number in Juniors and it wasn’t available in Philly.
Consistent 30 plus goal scorers don’t grow on trees. Columbus knows that all too well, as do a lot of other teams. Happy to have Carter, flyers got great young talent and potential, but got an unknown…Carter, if healthy, will score 30
by Re-SignZherdev on Jun 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This isnt as much of a reply to you, but why do i keep hearing that Carter has injury problems? I dont follow the Flyers close enough to say that he just fights through injuries or what. Seems like it keeps being brought up and looking at the number of games he plays a year, it seems like he does a good job at keeping healthy. If memory serves correctly, he has played something like 4/6 years over 80 games and only once under 70 or something. Can you elaborate on that flyersphan17? Maybe i have just been reading it wrong or something, which is completely possible.
Check out the last 2 years flyer playoff runs, missed time in both I think
This year he got knocked out of the flyers first round series and never played in their second round series
by Re-SignZherdev on Jun 28, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, so Flyer fans are complaining that he disappeared in the playoffs and he was injured?
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by notthatnoise on Jun 28, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoffs
The last 3 years in the playoffs he’s been injured. In 2009, against Pittsburgh he played with a separated shoulder. 2010, broke his foot at the end of the regular season and then broke the other one in the playoffs but still came back to play the last 2 games against Montreal and the Finals against Chicago. 2011, sprained his knee in the Buffalo series but came back for Game 7 (I believe).
Other than 2 games this season for his Grandfather’s funeral and the flu, he’s only missed time in 2010 because of the broken foot and 20 games in the 2006-07 season when he broke his leg.
by flyersphan17 on Jun 28, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
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