Jackets Claim Rivet
by Matt Wagner on Feb 26, 2011 12:20 PM EST
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PrintComing off another big win, Columbus GM Scott Howson has finally made at least one move - though I think it's fair to say that it was rather unexpected.
Columbus has claimed former Buffalo Sabres captain Craig Rivet off re-entry waivers.
An experienced defensive defenseman who started his pro career in 1994 with the Montreal Canadiens, Rivet has been a Hab, a Shark, and most recently a Sabre.
Regarded as a true team player with a strong commitment to the room, willing to drop the gloves and get physical, he's a depth d-man with a lot of postseason experience. He's had some offensive success, including a career high 35 points with San Jose in 2008, but his production steadily dropped in Buffalo before he was sent to Portland of the AHL, with just one goal and two assists in 23 NHL games this season.
To be honest, Rivet doesn't seem to address an immediate need for the Jackets outside of his playoff experience, particularly since he will be a UFA at the end of the year. This feels more like a precursor to something else happening.
Meanwhile, Mike Commodore has cleared re-entry waivers, and is expected to be remain in Springfield.
Keep an eye on The Cannon, twitter, email, your phone, and billboards around Columbus. Something big may just be about to happen.
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Unless this is related to a trade (say the Jackets need to keep a depth defenseman), I’m really not a big fan of this pickup. Being a quasi-Sabres fan and having plenty of Sabre-fan-friends, it’s clear that Rivet isn’t worth all that much this year. Even speaking from a Jackets perspective, I find it difficult to claim that he’s any better than OUR top 6.
But we shall see…
I figure this move says one of three things.
1) Klesla is hurt worse than Howson is willing to admit, and they want a veteran guy for the #7 position rather than a call up.
2) D-men (Klesla? Stralman? Other?) are going to move in a deal, and Rivet will provide a replacement body.
3) Howson wants more playoff experience in the room, but isn’t expecting to play him a lot of minutes. Even with his tank relatively dry, the man’s been in something like 70 NHL playoff games, and 4 goals and 18 games in that time.
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by Matt Wagner on Feb 26, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s probably number one. We shouldn’t exactly bank on Klesla being healthy, and Rivet might be better anyway.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Umm...
Did you not hear that Rusty took part in FULL practice Thursday? If he’s “hurt worse than Howson is willing to admit” then how could he go for the full thing? If you want to sit here and spew your info or opinions, make sure they’re right…
Settle down buddy.
Even if Klesla is healthy now there is little reason to believe he’ll stay that way.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, because a player has never taken part in practice and then had complications afterwards?
Look, I like Rusty as a person, but as a player it has not been a good last couple of years.
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Ok….first of all “notthatnoise” I am not a “buddy”….and d-men get hurt…kind of part of the territory. Yes, he does get injured more but it’s only cause he’s one of the rare ones who will actually do whatever is needed to try and block shots.
FFmorgan89….they were sniffing…doubt anything will happen of it….
cbjfan14….honestly? Are you sure you were watching the right games? Cause if you would look a bit closely Rusty did lead the LEAGUE as in the WHOLE NHL in blocked shots for the first half of the season and does way more than it seems you can care to see.
Matt…I’m not saying there isn’t but I know for a fact that he’s going to be back within the next couple games. So yeah…honestly…who says you know it all either?
I hate this time of year….I really do. Cause suddenly all the fair weather fans or band wagon fans come out and think they know it all…geesh….when are people going to realize that Klesla does more for the team and on the ice than he gets credit for? It’s irritating, really. I’d like to see any of you go out there and to what he does…oh wait….you can’t.
This is your third comment and you say “….I really do. Cause suddenly all the fair weather fans or band wagon fans come out and think they know it all”
We have been here all year through bad and good.
You have a lot of nerve calling someone who runs a blog about the bluejackets a fair-weather fan. My advice to you, buddy, is to relax. You came out swinging with an incredibly hostile first post. We try to respect each other around here. Get used to it or go back to Puckrackers.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Wow...
Real classy boys….real classy….excuse me for just trying to throw another perspective out there. How about you show some respect as well….not my fault you took my post and turned into a negative thing. Guess you don’t welcome other points of view…..and I am not a troll…but if this is how you all treat fan who think differently than you then wow….just wow…
Ok seriously now
You dont throw another perspective out there by calling people
Cause suddenly all the fair weather fans or band wagon fans come out and think they know it allEspecially on your third post on here.
Its fine you like Klesla and I dont. Actually, the first time i saw you post with that name my first thought was “uh oh, i dont think ill agree with this guy”. Which is fine. I disagree with other people on here sometimes as well. I love having conversations with people about these subjects. Such as mine with notthatnoise on Voracek/ Hemksy. But i think you need to rethink how you bring up a conversation.
Ok
That comment you quoted wasn’t directed at you….but you have to admit that it seems like this time of year suddenly people are crawling out of the woodwork and acting like they know hockey. Don’t take it so personal….
And I don’t care if you like Rusty or not….but it irritates me when people start talking crap about him like he does NOTHING for the team. If that were truly the case he would’ve been gone long ago. Seriously. And I need to be careful how I bring it up? Really? You all are the ones that took it as me being rude….and also…I AM NOT A GUY. Hence the fact I told you I’m not a “buddy” and did you stop calling me that? No. But now that I’m saying I’m a woman I bet that’ll not make this any better…
I don’t mind talking with other fans and having conversations, I’ve got plenty of hockey friends, but this was just something that a couple of you took and RAN with for no reason. The pictures? Really classy…you want me to be more careful how I bring up a conversation but yet you post those? Come on….if you want me to show class you have to do it too. But, the thing is, I’ve been showing a bit more class than you by not calling names. Just sayin’.
Also, that “Calm Down” picture is funny…I’m calm, been calm…you boys have been the ones going nuts….lol
O your a women, thats why you like Klesla….jk
You say
Really classy…you want me to be more careful how I bring up a conversation but yet you post those?
The biggest difference between you and me right now, is that i have been posting on this blog for a while. Most people on here know stuff about who i like o and my thoughts on things. Most people know i would like to trade for Liles or that i would not trade Voracek for Hemsky.
You on the other hand are on your sixth post. You came out running with your post about how you thought Matt was wrong about Klesla. Its the first impression you just screwed up. Your second impression was not much better by calling people " band wagon fans" when you have only been here for a day. Then you imply that I/we do not have class.
With all that said excuse me for thinking you are a troll.
I knew the woman card would change it...
Me being a woman doesn’t explain me liking Rusty…I’m not one of those annoying girls who only like a player cause of his looks. Those girls annoy the crap out of me. lol
I understand you’ve been posting for a while…and I know those things about you because I have been reading this blog for quite some time now but have never posted. My reason? I’m a woman and it seems like most male hockey fans don’t like, or take seriously, female hockey fans. This is something I’ve dealt with for many years but whatever….I don’t really care. I enjoy the sport and my team and I have friends who do as well…Again, my comment about the “fair weather fans” was NOT DIRECTED at Matt or any one else but I already explained that in my post prior to this.
As for the “impression”….it seems to me even if what I said wasn’t taken as you all decided to take it it wouldn’t matter cause since I haven’t been posting for a while so therefore I can’t say my opinion. Whatever….I’m done having this talk because it seems to me that you all are a tight group who don’t want new people to join in or if they do there’s lots of hoops they have to jump through, so to say.
by klesla97fan on Feb 26, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
The only hoop I would ask anyone to jump through is not acting hostile on their very first post. that is what you did. I don’t care that you’re a woman. I’m on a bunch of other sports blogs with active female members. What I care about is the level of discourse.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Why do you act like being a women is such a big deal. I dont care. I wouldnt have known if you didnt say it. Its irrevelant. My point is dont come here and call people classless. Thats more of a puckrakers thing. Just talk hockey.
I on;y said it because you kept calling me buddy after I asked you not to AND you called me a guy….just felt like I had to say it since you didn’t listen the first time….and that’s what I was trying to do….but it seems that because you guys wanted to take my words and deem them “hostile” I’ve now had to sit here and defend myself over something to trivial…
by klesla97fan on Feb 26, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
well if you are a woman
How you doin ; ) lol
by FFmorgan89 on Feb 26, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hahahahaha
I have to admit….that made me laugh…nice try there bub. ;) lol
by klesla97fan on Feb 27, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
aww..
kudos to you for trying…i can respect that. ;)
If you want to sit here and spew your info or opinions, make sure they’re right…
Your very first post was openly hostile. we didn’t start anything, you did.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
OH good god….who know you all would take it so personal…thought you all were guys on here…oh wait….
now yes, that was rude.
by klesla97fan on Feb 26, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’m confused by this post.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ok fine…
Here’s the thing, if I had any idea you guys would have taken that initial post so serious I wouldn’t have posted it. I can’t believe how far you all have taken this….seriously…LET IT GO.
by klesla97fan on Feb 26, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Thats where my whole thing comes in with this only being your tenth post. People dont know if your serious or just… hell i dont even know what your intentions were
Well then...
How about instead of jumping all over me about you ask? None of you have and I’ve sat here and told you all multiple times that wasn’t my intent….I have no hard feeling but this does make me mad cause I really thought you all were actually some ok people on here…this has changed my view…sorry…but this has just been a bunch of nonsense that didn’t need to happen.
by klesla97fan on Feb 26, 2011 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
its not the opinion they are pissed about
its the fact yu called everyone fair weather fans that don’t know anything about hockey. when WE are the ones who are trying to express different opinios
Again...
I wasn’t saying everyone is that on here….I was just saying in general….and again, this is something that just needs to die. Now. Really. lol
by klesla97fan on Feb 27, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
yeah sorry
didnt read on the comments before i posted lol.
it's all good
i should have never have used the word “spew” in the first place….i posted that while being pissed off i had to go to work. lol i’m sure you know how that can be…
Finally a number one pairing Puck Moving Defenseman!
err. its Rivet. Nevermind.
I like it. We now have three former captains and a defensive checker on the blueline.
Adam Foote still blows!
by Heavysoviet on Feb 26, 2011 12:33 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This move allows the team to have some depth as they embark on the road trip, rather than calling up John Moore to be the seventh as the case has been recently.
Down the stretch Rivet’s experience will be beneficial.
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Well, I hate to say it, but this definitely seems like a Howson type of move. Not sure what else there is to say that hasn’t been covered. Hopefully this is just to set up a more substantial move, although the way the team is playing lately I’m almost afraid of changing anything.
Let’s just leave it at “low risk.” The best anybody is saying about Rivet seems to be that he’s injury insurance on the blue line and could be a positive locker room presence. Which is nice enough since we didn’t really give up anything for it but not the type of move that’s going to be a huge difference maker.
by Dan Middleton on Feb 26, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
You do realize Howson is not the only one that decides this stuff. He has probably had long conversations with Arniel and many other people. Plus didnt Arniel used to be an assistant for Buff, wouldnt he know him well??
Arniel was with the Sabres from 2002-06. Rivet didn’t get traded to Buffalo (from San Jose) until 2008.
by Dan Middleton on Feb 26, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
McCabe to NYR. Good that he stays in the East and good he didnt go to us. I didnt personally want him.
I want Liles. Someone tweeted that he would likely waive his NTC to come to Columbus. Make it happen Howson
What a game that Howson missed a chance to add the aging former captain of yet another team to the Jackets roster.
I kid, I kid.
by Dan Middleton on Feb 26, 2011 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
According to Adrian Dater of Colorado, 13 scouts at Avalanche game including CBJ head pro scout Bob Strumm. hmmmm
Anyone know how often it is a head pro scout goes to games? Also anyone remember if Avs have had scouts for Jackets games recently?
haha idk. But ill probably find out. Just see him as best fit for our team right now. I think he will be great with a change of scenery and more time.
When you say it like that its like telling you Santa isn't real for the first time.
you will be Very disappointed, but deep down you knew all along that its not real.
OMG
Im watching the Avs..they are horrible. Gm really screwed em up with these trades. Sens stole Anderson and Blues stole Shattenkirk and Stewart. Johnson just cant have a big enough impact to be what Stewart was. Shattenkirk is young and will be good player
So we al know how to say the new Jacket’s name, is it like a French “ree-vay”, or like English “RIV-et”?
O your right. I say Riv-ay. When i saw RIV-et i was thinking the “et” as eh. So silent “t”. I think its either RIV-ay or Ree-Vay, either way
I remember hearing it as Riv-ay, so that’s what I’m going with.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
I have a similar question about Calvert. I hear all the announcers pronounce in “Cal-Vert,” but it seems like it should be pronounced “Cal-Vair.” Has the Cavalry himself taken a stance on this?
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
The second one...
It’s “Cal-Vair”…..I always find it amusing when they give the guys with last names like this multiple pronunciations…
by klesla97fan on Feb 26, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
He says it himself at beginning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_5pV1UO7-E
Also this might sound weird, but i never realized how strong Clavert was. At 1:10 in video you can see his arms. I knew he had a strong lower body because of many of his goals.
I’ll bet that would get it done. In fact, at that point I’m not sure we’re getting the best of the trade.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
I think it boils down to how we think of the upcoming draft, Sigalets value, and where we see ourselves next year. If we dont think draft pool is that great and Sigalets value is ok. Make the trade.. But if we see ourselves as 10 place next year, keep youngster and get the draft pick.
I’m not so worried about losing Sigalet. We have a lot of defensive depth in the system, and losing a guy in a trade would give some people more minutes in the AHL.
I know next to nothing about the upcoming draft class, so I don’t know whether a giving up a first would be too much or not.
"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway
by notthatnoise on Feb 26, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
wow dude you and you're friend liles lol.
i think a 1st maybe pushing it . especially when i believe they asked for a 2nd
They may have initially started with second but it ends up being a case of best deal wins. We are close to playoffs so it will be low first rounder. I think its a weak draft pool so its not likely to be as good of a player.
Liles would be great here. Puck moving defensemen. Been waiting for one for years. This is our chance
Liles would be an improvement, and he’d help for sure, but it’s not like he’s an all star or anything. because he is on the block and so many teams need d-men he is just getting all the attention, but let’s not overrate him. He’s not the #1 d-man we need, just like Vermette wasn’t the #1 center we needed, but still a solid player and an upgrade.
No downside to the Rivet move, salary wise or personnel wise, so think it was a nice little pickup for Howson…its looking more like he wants to keep the group he has together and trying to add without shaking things up too much
I Disagree.
Don’t get me wrong he is not Elite. But he is a Number 1 D Pairing D-man on most teams, and a Number 1 D-man in general on alot of others. He is no Lidstrom Doughty or Kieth, But he is a very capable number 1 dman.
Hes got 41 points already this year. Thats 17 points better than anyone on our team. He can help on our PP. He may not be a number one on say, Pittsburgh, but he would be on most teams in this league.
yeah, I hope we land him, a 2nd rounder is well worth it, especially considering how stacked we are with prospects already
by Re-SignZherdev on Feb 27, 2011 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
hmm, i’d do it. I gotta think the Avs would rather not send him in the division though, and could get that kind of return from Tornto or a bunch of others. I saw Liles as more of a Tyutin replacement, but would be happy with that deal if it went down
by Re-SignZherdev on Feb 27, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Bogo
I’d love to see us pay what it takes to get Bogosian – not only could he help us now, for the playoff push, but he could be a huge part of the future
I’m not sure I want to pay a price that big.
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by notthatnoise on Feb 27, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
yeah WAY too much,
im guessing at minimum Voracek a Couple of First rounders and Umberger
I think you’re over-valuing Bogosian there, but yes, the price would likely bee too high.
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by Matt Wagner on Feb 27, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
im not saying it is a good deal.
i just think thats what atlanta would ask for. besides Bogosian is having an off year, he put up like 20 points in 40 some games as an 18 year old rookie. he has a very bright future.
i hear. if we could give up a #1 pick, a #2 and prospect and maybe a lesser roster player I’d be all over it. Wouldn’t give up Jake or Brass though
by Re-SignZherdev on Feb 27, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
he’s had an off year but i remember watching him as a rookie and he was awesome – and he’s still only 20. he’s got a rocket shot too.
but trust me, I won’t complain if we land liles!
by Re-SignZherdev on Feb 27, 2011 12:09 PM EST reply actions
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