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Game 26 Open Thread: Jackets at Oilers

Columbus Blue Jackets at Edmonton Oilers, Dec 2, 2011 9:30 PM EST


To keep up with Dan's theme, welcome to the Dark Side of the Schwartz. With the matchup tonight in Rexall place starting late, we'll make a pot of coffee, get on our comfy jammies, and perhaps indulge with a bit of brandy in the mug. It is Friday night, after all.

News out of the Albertan wilderness is that Kristian Huselius will return from the IR tonight to play in his first game of the season. You may recall when he did something similar against the Oilers last season and came away with a hat trick...but unfortunately Steve Mason couldn't stop a beach ball that night, so the Jackets lost 6-3. Hopefully we can give him a better welcome back present tonight since Curtis Sanford is confirmed as the starter.

The real question is how the Jackets' lineup will adjust with Juice back in the picture. Do you move him to the wing with Johansen and Letestu? Does Prospal bump down to put Juice with Nash and Carter, and Umberger goes to the third line? It seems like Cody Bass would be scratched, but would the team take advantage of the chaos to sneak Derick Brassard back in on the fourth line? Is this the start (again?) of three scoring lines?

We have many questions, but few answers. Perhaps the pre-game skate will offer some clarity...

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OK, late news that Jeff Carter is out tonight due to a lower body injury suffered last night. He’s considered day to day.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:14 PM EST reply actions  

Lines:

20 – 50 – 61
22 – 17 – 19
18 – 16 – 15
24 -26 – 40

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Carter is starting to frustrate me. Not exactly him, just that he can’t stay healthy

by cbjfan14 on Dec 2, 2011 9:19 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

To be fair, Carter seems to have been hurt last night during the game and came back to finish, and he gets a few days to rest.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Rather inauspicious start.

by ahowie on Dec 2, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

OK, Sanford in net for the Jackets, Dubnyk in net for the Oil, and AWAY WE GO!

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. Nash gets hooked all of 13 seconds in? Lame.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

And that’s what happens when one of the worst (worst away from home, surely?) PKs goes up against one of the best (definitely first at home) PPs. Pathetic. Such a stupid penalty to pick up right away from Nash.

by ahowie on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

Worst thing is the way Vermette was caught completely flat-footed by that pass to Eberle.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Welp.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

Just wanted to pop in and say “hello” from C&B. Looks like a welcoming and well-informed blog over here. Good game all!

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Uh…typing while that happened. Still. Lots of game left.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks much!

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Really concerned about the Nikitin / Tyutin pair. The lack of speed could get real ugly.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll see you’re Nikitin and raise you a Whitney.

Just make sure they’re up there against the Belanger or O’Mara lines. We’ll have a molasses contest.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw, Juice, should have shot that…

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Starting to see some improvements, ever so slowly. Nice of the Oilers to give the Jackets time to breathe.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 9:55 PM EST reply actions  

Why did that have to be Dorsett on the end of that feed? Sheesh, what a lame “shot.”

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

Well, we had Umberger-Brass-Dorse, but now some variation of Boll-Umberger was a line? Or was that only a line change? It’s hard to tell these days.

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

I think it was a line change. Sort of. In a strange, flowing kind of way.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Boll appears to be hurt and it looks like Dorsett is getting double-shifted to make up for it.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, not thrilling choice there.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Jackets going on the PP after Sutton gets boxed for a hold!

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Watching Ryan Smyth cut his way past Tyutin and Nikitin, I want to make a “Only one man can beat this many Russians!” joke.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

They’re casting Pierce Brosnan for Oil Change: This Time It’s Serious.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Wis is hurt – looks bad.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

OK, stick to the face, looks like he got carved up by Jones, yet no call? Wow.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, dear lord. Sorry about that. Can’t believe there wasn’t a call there.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Real classy of Horidchuk to go over and chirp about it, too.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, we’re not all real happy about Hordichuk. Sorry about him like we’re sorry about Celine Dion.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn’t Bryan Adams bad enough?

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you also be sorry about Nickleback?

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, we at least had Skinny Puppy!

(um, yeah, Nickelback. Sorry.)

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You have Arcade Fire. All is forgiven.

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Them and Alexisonfire are more than enough to atone for their musical sins in my eyes.

by ahowie on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank god. I was afraid I was going to be apologizing for everything in the last three decades!

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

KATE TODD!

The most underrated Canadian treasure

by krdonnie213 on Dec 2, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I also give you a pass for Great Big Sea.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Wiz is missing approximately 35% of his teeth

by Gatjax on Dec 2, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Boll back on the ice…and I think he’s setting up his dance card with Horichuk.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

And there it is…for all of two seconds. Plus Horidchuk claiming he is pure as the driven snow…before saying something to Nash as he was ejected.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And it looks like that editorial earns the Jackets a PP for unsportsmanlike conduct. Slick.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Hordichuk is classless.

by doug32674 on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You’ll get little argument from our end either. The MSM is all fascinated with him because he has ‘grit’. Bloody annoying.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently the unsportsmanlike was for calling out Dorsett with a “You’re next.” Good to know.

It’d be nice if Renney stapled him to the bench, but we probably won’t be that lucky.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It’d be nice if Renney stapled him to the bench, but we probably won’t be that lucky.

Yeah, well, us either.

Also, it’s not just me:
http://www.coppernblue.com/2011/12/2/2606662/oilers-v-blue-jackets-psalm-85-1-3#84432668

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I must admit you have a few guys I really don’t like but a few I’d trade my left arm for. Nugent-Hopkins and/or Hemsky would look great in a Jackets sweater. ;)

by doug32674 on Dec 2, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you sure you’re not looking for an Eager or a Landar? Goin’ cheap!

(And if you’re looking for some extra style, we can work something for Hordichuck or Sutton.)

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Dear Jackets: We do not get points for passing.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

5 on 3… have to score here.

by doug32674 on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

5 on 3? OK, then.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

That’ll do, Tube.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Does he have an official nickname? I’m not sure how much I like Testy.

by krdonnie213 on Dec 2, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Test Tube was his moniker over in Philly. I think it works.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

So Brass-Vermette-Prospal is a thing now? Or rather, then? Ish?

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Temporarily, at least? The 5 on 3 disrupted a lot of lines.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Trying to interpret these lines is like reading the writings of a madmen…over his shoulder, while he is still scribbling.

by Gatjax on Dec 2, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Y’know, I thought Todd Richards had been looking a bit squamous lately.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

FSO guys claiming that the Jackets out-chanced the Oil 10-2 in the first. You best watch out Matt – they’re gunning for your job?

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

I’m quite aware I’m not the only person tracking them. :)

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering how the speed is such a factor in playing versus Edmonton, I don’t like to see Tyutin pinch in like that. The Jackets are lucky the outlet was not so quick or crisp, but that nearly became a 2-on-1.

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:40 PM EST reply actions  

OK, maybe this is stereotypical, or did Khabibulin look like he was in the bag on the iso-cam to anyone else?

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Funny you said that right before he turned the puck over to Horcoff…

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Has that Clitsome-Johnson pairing touched ice?

by Gatjax on Dec 2, 2011 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

Some, but not much.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s only playing clitSOME. Not much.

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Wowowow Sanford. Holy crap.

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

Earned his pay tonight. That was gorgeous.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazing stop.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

SANDMAN!

He’s in your nightmares.

by krdonnie213 on Dec 2, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Some huge chances for both sides…

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

DORSE SHORTHANDED

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

OK, that was REALLY stupid by Boll, but that was a BEAUTY by Dorsett!

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

All kinds of stupid on the Boll/Hordichuk thing, but full points on taking advantage of Gilbert’s boo-boo.

We’re playing him 25 minutes a night, so I’ll cut him some slack.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You’ve got to be freaking kidding me. AWESOME.

by Gatjax on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

I love the slight time delay from people watching the game on various cable / satellite providers…

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

Its good my phone doesn’t update automatically. Is know what happens b4 the play.

by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 2, 2011 10:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Brass now out with Nash and Juice. Will it last? No idea!

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

Dorsett with….a skillful play? Ok I could get used to that. Good pk to finish it off. Nice defensive awareness by Mackenzie to poke it out

by cbjfan14 on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

The point was made on Twitter, but: Why AREN’T we using Dorsett on shootouts? He’s got two breakaways goals in the last three games…

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

I just ran up to my office...

…from putting my unborn son’s nursery bookcase together just to point out that I’ve never EVER seen a single player make TWO BACK TO BACK EPICFAILFAIL moves in succession like that. EVER.

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by Dan P. on Dec 2, 2011 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

No hurry, man. Even if he’s a really early developer he isn’t likely to start reading until at least 18 months.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I don’t follow CBJ much (honestly, barely enough time to keep up with my team.) Who’s your undersung favourite?

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

Right now, Curtis Sanford is making himself a LOT of fans in Columbus…

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

He looks bloody good tonight. Is it sustainable?

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Historically speaking, probably not.

But, unless he takes a dump on the grave of John McConnell, Jackets fans would rather seem him no matter what than Mason.

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by Dan P. on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sorry – Brassard is too terrible to slot in the lineup anywhere for a variety of games, and now he’s on the powerplay unit? What?

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by zekebud on Dec 2, 2011 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Arniel said on Sunday that he was going to try to give Brass more PP time when he played. Apparently he’s as good as his word.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a big impact on ice yet, honestly. He had a couple of good opportunities but he’s passing rather than shooting – makes sense if he’s not 100% confident in his repaired muscles for a hard shot.

As lines go, they’ve been pretty constantly getting reworked.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Although Juice hasn’t been great he has had some nice passes. He had a nice pass to Vermette on a 2 on 1 but Vermette wasn’t ready. He set up Umberger in the slot who in turn hit a defender’s stick and he set up Nash alone with the goalie but he couldn’t finish. Not bad for not playing for so long. I agree that he needs to shoot more, but that is always an issue with Juice and I would still take his playmaking abilities over Nash’s turnovers anyday. Especially tonight when Sanford has bailed out Nash several times.

by Ville A on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Are Edmonton fans doing the wave? Is that like…typical?

by Gatjax on Dec 2, 2011 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

Yep. Enough $8 beer will do that.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW. Huge stop by Sanford with 19 seconds left!

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

OK, Jackets keep the 2-1 lead, and we have a BIG 20 minutes coming.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Sanford was a little slow on his leg pad and Ryan Jones forces the wraparound, we’re tied up…

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

Hard to take anyway from Sanford on that. Once in a while, one of those will happen if it’s aggressive enough.

by eddy the lip on Dec 2, 2011 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad give away by Moore.
Did it.go in off of clitsome? Couldn’t tell.

by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 2, 2011 11:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

It may have gone in off Clitsome, it was hard to tell, but seems possible.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like they all took valium at the intermission

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Smid scores from the point for a 3-2 lead. Tyutin turns it over with Eberle setting a screen and Methot in the way.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

Jackets got complacent after a huge first period and a big second period effort and it has cost them AGAIN. I’m getting really, really sick of seeing it time after time.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:39 PM EST reply actions  

And I will bet that’s it. Ryan Jones scores shorthanded for the 4-2 lead.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:43 PM EST reply actions  

Thats what i said last night. ;)

by cbjfan14 on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Are the jackets or oilers on the pp?

by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 2, 2011 11:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

The pluggers getting it done for both teams tonight. Dorsett with another! Great initial shot by Methot

by cbjfan14 on Dec 2, 2011 11:47 PM EST reply actions  

Derek Dorsett is constantly on the PP. His second on the night!

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 PM EST reply actions  

Dorsett with 2.

by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

It’d be nice if they could salvage 1 pt.

by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

HAHA. Brass gets pushed in front after whistle, was about to retaliate but looked up to see it was Peckham and backed off. Then pushed by Smid and was about to respond but saw it was Smid. Then turned to look for someone smaller to push.

by cbjfan14 on Dec 2, 2011 11:52 PM EST reply actions  

Come on jackets. We can win this game!

by Joe Barnhart on Dec 2, 2011 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

After vermette’s bad pass.

by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Clitsome literally did not see him at all and let him walk in right behind him. Awful defensive let down late in the game.

by cbjfan14 on Dec 2, 2011 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

Painfully bad play by Clitsome. Just….argh.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

There goes the wind out of the sails.

by Joe Barnhart on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 PM EST reply actions  

Yikes rough hit on Brass while he’s in a bad spot. That’s gonna hurt a lot.

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by zekebud on Dec 3, 2011 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

Looking at the replay, I would not be shocked if that gets a call from Shanahan.

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by zekebud on Dec 3, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

You’d think, but I’ve seen several hits lately I thought would be phone calls that did nothing.

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 3, 2011 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

That was an amazingly bad third period.

by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 3, 2011 12:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Seriously well fought game.

Also, thanks for the hospitality. Really appreciated that. Will be back next meeting!

by eddy the lip on Dec 3, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions  

Thank you! Just hope we change the ending next time. :)

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by Matt Wagner on Dec 3, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

The stats say…maybe! :)

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Jackets Stats: GVT, Rick Nash, and the Blue Jackets
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European based Blue Jackets fans needed!
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Hey, Mr. McConnell!
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