Game 25 Open Thread: Jackets at Flames
by Mike MacLean on Dec 1, 2011 8:12 PM EST
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PrintColumbus Blue Jackets at Calgary Flames, Dec 1, 2011 9:00 PM EST
As has been the case more often than not of late, center Derick Brassard is a healthy scratch tonight against the Flames. This was apparently the last straw for Brassard's agent, Allan Walsh. Walsh issued a statement blasting coach Scott Arniel, accusing the coach of burying players to mask his own lack of success. Head over to Puck Rakers for the full statement.
I'm not sure where I sit on the whole Brassard thing. I can't see the current top six (Nash, Carter, Prospal, Umberger, Letestu and Johansen) not playing on one of the top two lines. Brass is not a checker, so there goes playing with Vermette or Pahlsson. For a player who's improved every season since he joined the NHL, even if he was playing on the fourth line regularly I would consider it to be a waste. Having him in the pressbox is even more of a waste.
To muddle things even further, slick winger Kristian Huselius could be back in the lineup as soon as this weekend. Would Arniel take this opportunity to create three scoring lines? Nash, Carter and Prospal as the big unit. Huselius, Letestu and Johansen another line. A third scoring line of Umberger, Vermette and Brassard. That would leave Dorsett, Pahlsson, MacKenzie, Boll and Bass to fight over the three fourth line spots.
Anyway, back to the game.
It'll be an interesting tilt. With both teams blowing the big one on special teams, this game will come down to five-on-five play, and goaltending. Sanford is playing very well of late, and Kiprusoff is still an elite goaltender. It will be important for the Jackets to get ahead early. The Nash line will need to play as well as they did in a 4-1 victory against Calgary earlier this season.
Stay tuned after the game for my recap.
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Three scoring lines
This was the talk all offseason and it was never given a chance with a healthy lineup. Keep the top unit together, and maybe even the second line too. Leaves them with Huselius-Brassard-Vermette on the third line, and Mackenze – Pahlsson – Dorsett/Boll on the fourth and Bass taking his rightful place in Springfield.
Its 9:30 on a thursday night, where is everyone? I know the Caps-Pens game was exciting, but come on. :)
I’m around-ish, but the open thread is very quiet tonight. These west coast games are not very fun to stay up for.
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Oh my goodness Prospal – for having such great hands all year, the one time he has some open net space, the puck doesn’t quite follow as he wants and Kipper’s pads keep the puck out. Almost!
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Did I spy Nash and Carter playing at the very tail end of that PK?
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And now that the Jackets are back at full strength the Flames are possessing the puck as if they have an extra player. Sheesh.
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Its astonishing how much faster pace the Caps-Pens game was earlier as opposed to this. Both teams look bad, with Jackets looking worse
It is not really helping the Stay Awake efforts tonight. Nothing much is happening, and what is happening is in slow-mo.
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Hannan gives Johansen one of those shoves the NHL really doesnt like sending him into the boards. Obviously not suspendable or anything, but good enought for a Jackets powerless play. So far 45 seconds in and if i didnt see the hit, i wouldnt know we were on PP. Lets hope this gets better
Not the nicest of hits – lucky that Johansen didn’t slide around and knock his head on the boards as he fell.
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Now if they switch Umby and Vermette, things would be even better.
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Man, I wanted the Carter/Nash combo to be so much more effective.
Just haven’t seen it yet… wish it was much more productive
by lmclaughlin16 on Dec 1, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
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It appears #CBJ coach Scott Arniel is switching up lines: Nash now on left side of Letestu – Johansen, while Umberger joins Carter – Prospal
Nash and Carter split up. Actually really like the lines though. Would like Vermy instead of Umby, but this works
2-1 Flames
What a shot by Bourque, bad turnover by Letestu and Methot has got to get over and tip that shot.
And the Flames score. And it seems like it was inevitable really. Sigh.
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How they got through that period only giving up 1 is amazing. Calgary was dominating.
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I’m so freaking sick of last-minute-in-the-period goals against. It’s almost like their heads are already in the dressing room. It’s maddening.
RE: the poll question, I think for a coach who probably should have been fired three weeks ago, he can’t afford to “bury” players in the press box. I think he just isn’t as “wide open offense” as maybe we thought he’d be. You can’t break up the third line, and Brass doesn’t fit with Mack and Boller.
Having his agent whining in public certainly hurts his trade value, too. Not as much as never playing him, but still…
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Well, time for the 3rd period. I hope the Jackets show up at some point over the final 20 minutes.
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So Dorsett-Carter- Umby are line. WTF Arniel. I just dont get it. AT ALL. You dont play Brass so you can keep the Dorsett Vermy Pahlsson line together and now you take whatever offensive ability essentially away from Carter by putting him with Dorse and umby.
Nash-Letestu-Johansen is still intriguing though
In listening to all the names rattled off by the FSO guys, I’m completely confused by the line combos. I can’t imagine what Arniel sees that we don’t. It must be something. The mind, it boggles.
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In small defense...
Prospal’s having a rough night.
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Wiz with horrible D play as Flames get 3 on 1. Shot bounces of Prospal and in. 3-1 Flames.
Goodnight folks. That will most certainly do it with the effort we are putting out.
Pardon the language...
….but that whole series was f**king dreadful.
Looks like the “Sanford Bump” may be coming to an end, though no fault of his.
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I don’t even know. What a dumb turnover and no effort when the 3 on 1 showed up – they set up and nobody crashed to challenge while they stood there. Pathetic.
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good defensive game for the top line
Nash -3
Carter -2
Prosoal -2
And just for kicks, wiz is also -2.
by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 1, 2011 11:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jackets… goal? That was really really strange and the game went call kinds of quiet as it was happening.
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Aha! Replay shows it’s a nice shot from Nikitin at the point. I look away for one second and the game turns like that. Maybe I should look away again.
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GOOOAL
Nikitin with another blast and it gets tipped. Wow, jus shows how bad Calgary is. Great slap pass by Nikitin and great tip by Nash
About time they woke up in this game! And to think I was just about to complain about Umberger and terrible passing and lack of skating/intensity again.
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Wow I was about to turn it off when nikki nikki scored, and the flames pulled a jackets, how is this possible
by soultrain8 on Dec 1, 2011 11:30 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Honestly shocked this game is in ot, I was like the rest of this thread and ready to pack it in but got late start on the game
by soultrain8 on Dec 1, 2011 11:32 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Jackets somehow get a point. Lets not go to a shootout again. Can only imagine what Bourque and iginla would do against us
Let’s try to not imagine that.
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I have to tell you – from that last desperate goal thing and the overtime since then, the Jacket are skating much better. More movement, more speed. It’s almost like they’re playing desperate, passionate hockey right now.
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Agreed but why does it take 58 minutes?
by soultrain8 on Dec 1, 2011 11:36 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
That’s got to say something about Arniel – good coaching is what this is. I would like to see him stick around a little while longer, at least now that he has the team going at a higher speed.
by tricolore_21 on Dec 1, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I am yelling at my TV again. They need to get out of the defensive zone NOW.
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Stopped skating and Wiz was gassed
by soultrain8 on Dec 1, 2011 11:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Nash has to stop trying to do everything on his own. Too many fancy moves and he just gets stripped of the puck.
by tricolore_21 on Dec 1, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
At least they got a point… I guess, such a terrible way to end a game
by soultrain8 on Dec 1, 2011 11:40 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I dont understand the logic of Johansen-Pahlsson and now Nash-Pahlsson. Go for the offense at this point.
Maybe going for the best faceoff chance in the defensive zone? I honestly don’t know on that one.
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Will you look at that? Jeff Carter in the shootout! Crazy!
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What? Carter, Nash, Tuytin… Wow
by soultrain8 on Dec 1, 2011 11:43 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don’t understand using Tyutin. He’s no Letang, he doesn’t have the moves for a shootout.
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The ice cleaning was poor on Jackets end
by soultrain8 on Dec 1, 2011 11:45 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
THE JACKETS WIN IN A SHOOTOUT??? WHAT IS THIS?
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I think hell just froze over
by soultrain8 on Dec 1, 2011 11:46 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Let’s review the facts here: Jackets come back from down two goals late in the 3rd AND manage to win in a shootout?
Everything we know is a lie.
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Disparaging comments
I should eat my shoe for making comments about the top line playing terrible d. They got a goal when it was needed.
by Gr8fulnfa on Dec 1, 2011 11:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I really have a vendetta against player agents. Always doing things that they shouldn’t be doing. A player’s position is NEVER guaranteed. Mason would never have come through the NHL when he did if Norrena and Leclaire had been healthy. An athlete has to prove his willingness and worth on each and every shift. I think Brassard will be traded. Don’t need him anymore, anyway.
Ndamukong Suh makes James Harrison look like a teletubby.
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