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Speculation: Bobby Ryan?

With news out of Anaheim indicating that the Ducks are looking for offers on 2005 #2 overall pick Bobby Ryan, a lot of NHL fans are starting to salivate about the idea of adding a potential 30+ goal scorer to their ranks.

The downside, if you're Scott Howson (or 28 other GMs) is that Ryan doesn't come cheap in any sense - the 24 year old winger is in the first year of a new 5 year, $26 million dollar deal, and the Ducks are reportedly looking for high caliber NHL defensive help in exchange.

Making life even more complicated are reports that Anaheim GM Bob Murray is stuck behind a tight budget - Anaheim currently sits ~$3.7 million under the salary cap, and are unlikely to want to take on much more cash.

So, if the Ducks really are willing to move Ryan in an attempt to shake up their locker room, could Columbus make them an offer? I think there are a couple of scenarios that could work.

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Option 1: There's More Than One Kind of Defensive Help

While Anaheim wants to fix their defensive woes, there's more to defense than just the blue line - and Columbus could well offer former Duck Samuel Pahlsson as a possible answer. Though Pahlsson has been inconsistent in a shutdown role here in Columbus, he seems to finally be settling into Scott Arniel's system and showing the impressive defensive play that made him a big part of the Ducks' Stanley Cup run. 

Pahlsson would also be a significant in-season savings, plus will be a UFA at the end of the year to allow Murray and the Ducks more salary flexibility as they decide how to address the issues within their roster. He also fills a big void of experience in their bottom six that's currently forcing the team to rely on more of their depth than they appear comfortable with.

Option 2: Tyuts

Though Columbus just signed Fedor Tyutin to a new six year extension, the blueliner could be seen as a quality defensive answer for the Ducks, and at a cost savings over Ryan. With a reliable (if not explosive) offensive ability and a strong defensive pedigree, Tyutin could be seen as a fill in for the injured Lubomir Visnovsky, and a long term replacement in the Ducks top six for Francois Beauchemin, a UFA who appears likely to be on his way out of Orange County after this season. 

The cost to Columbus would be heavy, and would mean re-shuffling the defensive pairings again, but the offensive pop might well be considered worth it.

Option 3: Grab Bag

Columbus has a variety of players that could be politely referred to as underachieving this season, and it seems entirely possible that Howson and Murray could gamble on changes of scenery making an impact for players involved in the deal.

A move that sent Anaheim Derick Brassard and Matt Calvert, for example, would provide the Ducks with renewed speed and some solid scoring punch, but also allow them to fill in through the lineup where needed to help augment the loss of Ryan, and still provide long term cap relief.

Antoine Vermette's name has also been frequently mentioned in trade rumors, and would provide a versatile forward capable of stepping in at the wing or center, potentially offering a role similar to Pahlsson for the Ducks but at a younger age and signed to a reasonably friendly deal compared to Ryan's salary.

In all honesty, it's likely that Murray will look at his options and elect not to move Ryan, particularly if the Ducks can find some footing over the next several games, but the possibilities are there, and it would be interesting to see what, if anything, may come of it, especially if Scott Howson decides no price is too high in trying to turn the Blue Jackets around.

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The Jackets are thin at defense as well so I don’t see them giving up Tyuts. That would leave us with Aaron johnson in the lineup and his own mother doesn’t want to see him on the ice. I’ve been disappointed with Pahlsson all season. Admittedly, he’s played better of late, but in exchange for Bobby Ryan?? Yes please! No way in hell Anaheim does that trade though. The third option is interesting, though I see Vermette as more likely trade bait than Brassard, because I think he’s a more responsible two-way player.

by CBJKing on Nov 29, 2011 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Disagree with that first sentence.

Here is what our defense would look like without Tyutin:

Wisniewski – Methot
Clitsome – Martinek(when healthy)
Nikitin – Moore

Not to mention we would still have Savard and Johnson waiting in the wings. I would be all for trading Tyuting for Ryan. I know Prospal has been brilliant, but just imagine a Ryan – Carter – Nash line. Wow.

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by ChopMaster on Jun 25, 2011 7:25 PM CDT

by justincredubil02 on Jun 28, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
by ChopMaster on Jul 2, 2011 12:53 PM PDT

by GouldisGold on Nov 29, 2011 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing is after Wiz all of those guys are a big step down from Tyutin. Sure, we may get league average defense out of those guys, but we may not.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No one on the jackets could be traded for Ryan strait up

Even if they offered nash they would still have to send more salary back. That said vermette a prospect and 1st round could do the trick.

by FFmorgan89 on Nov 29, 2011 7:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Simply put I don’t think we have the assets. Maybe closer to the deadline we could offer something like Moore and Huselius, but I don’t think that would get it done either.

"An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools" -Hemingway

by notthatnoise on Nov 29, 2011 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Moore juice and a 1st could potentialty get it done.

by FFmorgan89 on Nov 29, 2011 7:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I would rather pass on Ryan if it meant we were able to upgrade our defense and goalie for next year.

by cbjfan14 on Nov 29, 2011 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Just curious, who would do Carter for Ryan straight up? If not, what gets added either way?

by cbjfan14 on Nov 30, 2011 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

i dont think its a bad idea, i dunno if id do it though

ryans a little younger, makes a little less money. we got plenty of centers, were getting kristian back soon, but our wingers have not been scoring very often this year, we would use some help there

by Berecki on Nov 30, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

u guys gotta remember too

jackets are spending soo much money all ready, and with us pretty much out of the playoffs all ready, it seems unlikely we would make a trade to take on more cash, especially with the financial struggles the jackets have

by Berecki on Nov 30, 2011 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

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