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When will we land a gem?

Or do we already have one?

First off, I have to give credit to Light the Lamp for the inspiration for this post. 

From LTL:

Puck-rakers just announced that Marc Methot has avoided arbitration and has signed a 2 year deal worth $975,000 in 2009-10 and $1.05M in 2010-11.

Not bad for a 6th round pick in the 2003 draft. I wonder if the "mouthpieces" will start calling Methot a gem like they do Detroit's Eriksson [sic]? I mean afterall Eriksson [sic] was a 9th round pick in the 2002 draft and scored a whopping 1g, 3a in 19 games last season. Methot on the other hand registered 4g, 13a in 66 games.

The Ericsson referenced is, of course, Detroit's rookie defenseman Jonathan Ericsson.

After reading this blog entry, it got me thinking, when is Columbus going to get some credit? Now, before I get started, I have to admit, Ericsson playing a big role in Detroit is slightly different than Methot playing a big role in Columbus when you compare to the two rosters. And yes, I know very few lust after a young franchise slowly building what will become a perennial contender when three hours up the road you have the most recent edition of a dynasty in the NHL. Detroit also has a history of late-round steals, which is why many are quick to praise their players. With that out of the way, the argument remains.

Ericsson is praised and praised and praised for being a "diamond in the rough" and playing valuable minutes for the Red Wings this year. The 25-year-old defenseman was the last pick in the 2002 draft. The fact that he's even played in the NHL, let alone found a home with the Red Wings, is certainly an accomplishment. But why don't the Blue Jackets get similar praise for their draft successes?

Marc Methot was selected in the 6th round in 2003. Most draft picks are typically a roll of the dice. Columbus is getting some recognition for rookie sensation and Calder Trophy winner Steve Mason, a 3rd round pick in 2006. But I want to know, why isn't Methot getting any love?

Here are the scouting reports found on Sportsnet.ca for Methot and Ericsson:

Methot:

Assets

Has outstanding size and defensive acumen. Plays a sound, stay-at-home game and rarely makes mistakes in his own end. Displays leadership qualities.

Flaws

Lacks the offensive ability to put up points on a consistent basis in the NHL. Needs to use his large frame more to intimidate the opposition.

Ericsson:

Assets

Owns the size NHL teams crave along the blueline. Has a projectable frame and all-around upside. Could log big minutes because he's low maintenance.

Flaws

Is extremely raw in all aspects of the game, and needs better coordination in order to maximize potential. Must also use his size more to his advantage.

Guess which one is pegged as a "top four defenseman" and which is considered a "stabilizing defenseman" or in other words, a 6/7 defenseman? If you guessed Ericsson as the top four d-man, you were right.

Had Ericsson played an entire season, he was practically on pace to match Methot's point totals. As mentioned in the Light the Lamp entry, Methot finished with 4 goals and 13 assists for 17 points in 66 games. Ericsson tallied 1 goal and 3 assists for 4 points in 19 games. Ericsson, who is credited for his size, checks in at 6'4'', 206 lbs., while Methot is listed at 6'3'', 225 lbs.

Methot wasn't just a bottom pairing defenseman this year, either. He filled some big minutes on the second pairing next to Fedor Tyutin for most of the year, with Rusty Klesla down with various injuries. 

All I'm saying is, these two guys aren't very different. Except one plays for the Red Wings. Ericsson did have a pretty solid playoff appearance, but Methot didn't get much of a chance. He also wasn't playing with Pavel Datsyuk, Marian Hossa, and Henrik Zetterberg.

As the 2009-10 season nears, the Blue Jackets are hoping to add an offensive-defenseman, and Methot could see reduced minutes, especially if Klesla stays healthy. I was a little on the fence about the Methot deal when I first heard about it, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized it was a good deal. He's just 24-years-old and still has room to grow. Columbus does lack a true puck-mover or a cannon from the point. There are certainly weakness to the defense. But there are some tremendous players in place that are continuing to grow and will excel with the Jackets yet again next year. Don't get me started on Jan Hejda or Fedor Tyutin.

Click below to view some Methot clips to whet your appetite for next season.

Star-divide

(skip to 1:55 for Methot goal, 2:25 for Methot deke and shot on goal, but please, Jackets fans, don't watch the rest of this clip for your sanity. Oh, Freddy Norrena...)

 

(Oh my how I can't wait for a full season of Derick Brassard.)

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Ericsson is the better D-man

im not dissing on Methot by anymeans. but you also have to remember that with columbus’ lack of a true Power Play defenseman Methot plays alot more power plays ( ericcsson is playing behind Lidstrom, Rafalski and Kronwall) and he has more size (and uses it more) then Methot. i like methot but Ericsson IS the better Defensman, and with Lilja probably out for his career Ericsson will finally get full time minutes. and will produce big in his second year. Methot will be good for 15-20 pts this season but Lidstrom is good for 30-35 points.

by FFMorgan on Jul 27, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not necessarily disagreeing that Ericsson is better. Like I said, for anyone to crack the Red Wings line-up is pretty impressive, let alone a 9th round pick.

But I just don’t buy that he’s the next coming, and Methot is a run of the mill d-man that’s average at best.

Methot didn’t see any power play time last year. (Well, he averaged 8 seconds per game)

Ericsson could very well put up 30 points next year. Based on Methot’s progress, I could argue he’d see the same jump in production. Ericsson had better offensive stats in the AHL. But in one full season, Methot already put up better numbers in the NHL than he ever did in the AHL.

It certainly doesn’t hurt that Ericsson will be out there on the power play next year with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Franzen, Lidstrom, Rafalski, and others. Methot put up his numbers this year in a defensive role on the 2nd and 3rd pairings and no power play time.

I’m just saying give the guy a chance and an ounce of respect.

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by Andy Newman on Jul 27, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm afraid it comes down to this...

It is simply because we’re talking about the high and mighty Detroit Red Wings and the "up-and-coming but not yet there’’ Columbus Blue Jackets. Unless Methot turns on the offensive switch and scores 30-40 points this year it’ll be the same conversation.

Methot is one of my favorite young players and I hate to think that anyone under 25 who is a D-man in this league isn’t getting any kind of respect. I wish him nothing but the best this year and I hope we shuts up a lot of people who have doubts in his abilities.

"be where you are when you're there"

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 27, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

You could certainly get an argument about “not yet there”… Once you burst that playoff bubble, the teams that used to rely on you missing start to sweat.

This could be the year the Central has all five teams in the playoffs. I’m okay with that, even if I’m a Canucklehead, because I know we’re in. Er, with the caveat being Raycroft (Raycroft?!?) plays no more than seven games over the season. I’m expecting Columbus to return, though.

by Thursday on Jul 28, 2009 1:58 AM EDT reply actions  

All the more reason...

to bring in Sergei Zubov. With Methot and Russell both under contract, it would be extremely beneficial to have a veteran puck-mover on the back end to mentor these young guys and prepare them for a bright NHL future. Sure, with the addition of Zubi, there will be an odd man out, but only for a little while… I mean, do you honestly see Rusty staying healthy / remaining in Columbus all that long?

I like Methot, and I really like Russell, but they need a veteran to show them the ropes and provide some offensive spark for the time being. In two years, I see both of these guys being serviceable D-men with some offensive flair, especially Russell. I envision Methot becoming more of, pardon my french, an Adam Foote type player (not person / feminine hygeine product) with a better scoring touch. Really, that’s not a bad thing to have around.

by Dan J on Jul 28, 2009 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, especially in regards to the Adam Foote comparison. In Methot’s first call-up to the NHL, I remember saying, “this kid could be the next Adam Foote.”

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by Andy Newman on Jul 28, 2009 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ericsson is better, Methot is fine

Look at Ericsson’s stats from the playoffs…4g 4a, 8 pts in 22 games with a +/- of 9. 3rd for the Wings defenseman behind only Lidstrom and Rafalski. Ericsson plays a better already game and has a very heavy shot. Ericsson was also getting time quarterbacking the power play.

From reading, Methot got very little, if any, time on the power play. Methot will be a good D-man in the NHL, he will make, in my opinion, second liner where as Ericsson is being groomed to eventually replace Lidstrom/Rafalski in the top pairing for the Wings.

by RodneyA on Jul 28, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not going to say that you’re wrong, because there’s no way to definitively say either way.

But, is it really fair to compare the players playoff appearances? Methot played in the 4 game sweep at the hands of the Red Wings. Ericsson went to the finals and had 22 games to collect those points in an increased role to the injuries of their d-men.

I’m not trying to take anything away from Ericsson because he’s a fine young player with room to grow… but isn’t Methot the same?

Aside from the playoffs, which is also hard to compare when you look at the Detroit roster in comparison to Columbus, everything about these players is fairly similar. Yet one is a “top defenseman” while the other is a fringe roster player.

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by Andy Newman on Jul 28, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take a look at the first video

Methot looks like he will certainly develop into a guy who wants to dig in, and cause some trouble for goalies up close and personal. While its dangerous for Dmen to be flying up on net, sometimes it pays off, as seen in the video.

However, if that was a one-time thing, I agree with Dan; adding a guy like Zubov is CRUCIAL. He is the perfect candidate to mentor and help develop Methot and Russell into the players of our defensive future. Z is still available, and we’ve got a long ways to go before the season starts…I’m just saying…

by BLAZER_FAN_199 on Jul 29, 2009 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

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